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Jun 1

• AresUII
  Been waiting to use this seriously.
  2:17.56
• AresUII
  Failed GAR attempt [hit tunnel roof]. Guess I'll still be waiting
  2:03.11 A
• radad
  Just another millenial that played this game throughout the 90s and talked to Claude one day about Stunts, and this site came up.
  2:04.74 A
• AresUII
  Another fail. Corks have nothing on uphills into hairpins!
  2:01.97 A

Jun 2

• AresUII
  Yet another fail--missed the border on exiting the 2nd cork l/r. "Corks have nothing on uphills into hairpins!"
  2:02.04 A
• Victor Narl
  @Duplode, about this replay: https://zak.stunts.hu/replays/8926b68952085e43d92b2245a23d9644bbefa598 - 0:52:40 mark, there was a jump from Corcscrew that was prohibited in GAR, please check the replay and cancel it
• Duplode
  @VictorNarl While there indeed is a little airtime on that cork exit, the car at 52.40 meets the letter of the requirement of rule 3.55.2, namely, "at least one pixel of the car must cross the line at which the curved surface of the cork meets the road" when viewed from the standard camera angle. (In this case, it is a white pixel from the top of the cabin.) For that reason, I'll let the GAR flag stand for this replay. This is a weird edge case made possible by the Silverado being such a tall car -- the height of the 3D shape wouldn't make a meaningful difference for most other cars.

Jun 3

• Victor Narl
  @Duplode, that's a very strange decision. In assessing the GAR rules, we should be guided primarily by the video from @Marco, which clearly shows that such jumps in Corcscrew are prohibited. Here, an advantage in the air was gained, which should not happen. The very concept of GAR following yellow lines was grossly violated here. I will appeal to @Marco on this issue
• Marco
  Ahahah, I love you because this discussion is very professional . I will check the replay and tell my opinion. My ulnar nerve doesn t permit me to still get inside the competition. About the car, well, unfortunately , in a GAR race here in Zak, if you don t decide the car at the beginning , it will be almost always a slowest one. Was not bad the testarossa chosen by duplode but it was fast override by the truck
• Alain
  Marco, I must respectfully disagree with your assumptions, although I admit I am only a humble potato with a steering wheel. At GAR, we have always raced with whatever car we wanted. That was, as far as my tiny brain understood it, part of the spirit of the thing. Also, unless I missed your coronation ceremony, I don’t think you are officially qualified to edict the rules for everyone. I will politely remind you that in GAR, the A stands for Agreement, not Anarchy. I know, shocking discovery. I had to sit down after realizing it. So no, I’m not taking part in a GAR race where car choices are suddenly prohibited by royal thunderbolt. And yes, this is a boycott threat — but a very polite one, with a napkin folded on its knees — in defence of freedom of choice. Freedom for the cars. Freedom for the drivers. Freedom for my last remaining brain cell.
• HerrNove
  I'll just point out that GAR originally refers to the “gentleman's agreement” between @Marco and @FinRok*. So Marco might not be a king, but his status concerning GAR is something between an official founder and the author of the Tablets of the Law. That said, just like Wikipedia with Jimbo Wales, sometimes the community can disagree with the founder. * See https://zak.stunts.hu/index.php?page=newsarc&year=2016&month=5
• Victor Narl
  @Marco, @Duplode, rule 3.55.2 states: "In particular, this rule forbids drifting leftwards when exiting an L/R cork in order to gain airtime." @Marco, I look forward to your decision on AresUII's replay. @Duplode, please re-check AresUII's replay for any serious violations of 3.55.2; I don't understand why the Silverado should have an advantage over other cars in terms of section 3.55.2?
• Alain
  Well, invoking Finrock is irrelevant because he's inactive and out of the 2026 gentlemen convo. Let's see what Victor, Duplode and Marco will decide between expert GAR Gentlemen. You and I HerrNove, are not qualified to edict the rules either (look at our recent results). To conclude, I must be honest: I'll support Victor's choices in any case.
• dreadnaut
  In my mind, @Marco is the main architect of GAR racing. He first proposed and championed the format. Everything evolves of course, but I would defer to him for most details. On the other hand, re-reading his message, I don't think he is trying to fix a car @Alain. Marco is describing how things often end up, not how they must go.
• Alain
  Aknowledged. I was wrong about the car choice non existent debate. I'll wait for his views about GAR racing to try comply to them (at my own no RH pace, which I call TMHT, half turtle and half ninja).
• Duplode
  On rule 3.55.2: As it is written right now, the "In particular [...]" sentence refers to the main part of the rule (the "On both entry and exit [...]" sentence), and acts as commentary rather than as an additional requirement. If you feel it really matters, I'd be happy to amend the rule to address this weird special case with the Silverado, so that the text is closer to the spirit of the rule. However, I'm not sure it would be fair to apply such an amendment retroactively to that specific replay by AresUII, given that it follows the letter of the rule as currently written.

Jun 4

• Marco
  Hi my friends. Sorry for my english. I think that my english is so bad that let me appear several time boastfull while, in my real italian life, I'm very funny .Don't know how to explain but, for me that I'm a full dos gamer, this community is magic, it's magic that a dos game of the 1991 is taken so seriously today , I love this so much . Well Alain, Dreanaut explained perfectly my intentions that were absolutely not to impose to chose the car. It was a simple consideration about the fact that, with a free choice, slowest cars are always or very often the final choice due to the % advantage. So it would be very difficult to see a GAR race with different cars than the Silverado this year )) . Anyway, the fact I wrote the GAR rules, doesn't mean anything to me . I worked on them for this community and the GAR rules are for this community . So the community can always decide what is better for all expecially when there are so strictly rules. Anyway , I checked Ares replay and, in my mind, it would be not valid . So I checked my GAR video and I think that, "my mind" could be explained better than that . Infact , the primary objective of the rule must be to do not take speed up advantage , so "Don't jump in or out of the corkscrew" . While, the rule regarding the OPOOT on the perpendicular line has come as a help to avoid the jumping (but probably is not enough with all the cars). Jumping speed up would be allowed only as involuntary on "jumps" obviously and banked roads . Then we know that, on banked roads , with right skills, it is possible to engage a little jump speed up ... this is quite permitted because it's difficult to demonstrate that it was done on purpose ))
• Victor Narl
  @Marco, thanks for checking the AresUII replay. @Duplode, don't forget to cancel the GAR flag for the AresUII replay. Also, rule 3.55.2 certainly needs clarification and adjustments due to the introduction of larger cars like the Silverado. All GAR cars must be on equal terms with respect to the applicable rules

Jun 5

• AresUII
  Seems like a good time to butt in with a question: https://send.mni.li/download/df2ddc9095fc65b3/#2rPLOr7IJEc1cobI5mfRQA Block jumped within pipe, not clipped. Legal or illegal? (Sorry, didn't save replay. Also please pretend it's for this month's course and not the R4K race.)
• Marco
  I 'm not understanding perfectly but, anyway, it's not allowed to gain speed up inside pipe as for corkscrew. Only involuntary jumps are allowed. If the car randomly jump when you are on a straight , that's fine, you have not done that on purpose. It's fine also the jump entering or exiting the banked roads because is more difficult to manage. So, it's allowed
• Victor Narl
  @Marco, I'm completely baffled as to why @Duplode wants to keep AresUII's replay, which clearly violates GAR rules. Let's wait for his response.
• Alan Rotoi
  Remember GAR scoreboard in ZakStunts is for fun without any official place or season's standings. So the times for discussion or debates, if something has so be fixed, are more relaxed. It will be solved at the end. But don't forget it's unofficial, just for fun and relaxed scoreboard.
• Marco
  Victor sorry, Alan is right . Everyone has also a personal life to manage and, maybe, Duplode is still also thinking if my opinion is good or not. As I said, my opinion can be discussed or override by the community, it's not written on the rocks. Anyway Victor, because you are very fast, as gentlemen agreement, the fastest racers use to record themself when they drive . CTRL+ALT+F5 on Dosbox. If someone ask , it's to demonstrate that the RH was not used. I use to record myself and my fingers and share videos on my FB page. In the past I think that some guys joined the GAR championship using RH. So, if you have a youtube channel , it would be great to see your live GAR driving skills
• Marco
  not mandatory obviously, it's always great to watch so fast GAR racers
• Alain
  Let it be clear, I will not be sharing "GAR driving skills" videos on Hyperion Racing Team official YT channel, but you, for sure, can start publishing yours on your YT channel.
• Victor Narl
  @Marco, unfortunately, my YouTube channel was deleted last year for three trumped-up violations. My appeal was never considered, and it may never be considered. I also want to say that I don't use Dosbox while playing, I play in native mode directly from WinXP32.
• Marco
  Today, my ulnar nerve permitted me sone trials. From WinXP ? Wow , sounds good. For RH competition there are no problems because everything is allowed but, a new very fast racer on GAR with automatic clutch ... it would be not so bad to show his skills. You decide. This race will be uploaded on my FB channel , Marco Plays Dos Games. Fingers recorded as usual.
• Marco
  Alain, but is my english so bad that I'm not able to let understand that all my GAR laps are live recorded and showed on my FB page https://www.facebook.com/MarcoPlaysDosGames ? And, anyway , I'm not saying you have to do that , I said that it would be not bad for a new racer that shows to be faster than me or Duplode in GAR mode.
• MiDiaN
  Great lap Marco! I agree, more live GAR videos please!
• Victor Narl
  @Marco, I'm not a new racer, I'm a late old man.. here's about me here: https://wiki.stunts.hu/wiki/User:Victor_Narl I'm used to playing in native, I won't be able to show good results in another environment
• Marco
  Hi Victor, yes I red about you. It seems to me you appeared in 2024 on DosReloaded and R4K and last year you joined Zak Stunts. In the meantime you set the lap records in every DosClub circuits overtaking me and Duplode (RH or not RH ?) . Am I right ? I met ZakStunts in 2015. Because I was not a so bad rookie, a historical racer named CTG starts to say that I was not "rookie Marco" but I was "professional Mark Rivers" . A previous italian nice racer. It was a big compliment to me because, in my mind, he was saying something like :"Hey you are too good to be unknown here" . The truth was that I was unknown here but not unknown everywhere. I had already FB and YT pages since years before. So was not so difficult to demonstrate that I simply was a very passioned dos gamer since ever and I met Zak Stunts later as a coincidence otherwise I would be here from the beginning for sure. Don't know if CTG was convinced , maybe only Rivers can help me showing a video proof of that ... )). Mark come here !

Jun 6

• Alan Rotoi
  I wrote to Mark L. Rivers some years ago and he didn't show much enthusiasm to come back. Maybe for zct300... who knows
• Marco
  He is 57 now, i would be please to meet him . Mr Anelio showed us that age is only a number .
• AresUII
  https://tube.shanti.cafe/w/2ENfB1sgT8jCFgwCRqPqWu @VictorNarl Why not upload your archive over here?
  2:00.67 A
• AresUII
  */plug
• MiDiaN
  If I understand correctly, Dos Games Club uses NO-RH rules, yet Victor has a 0:29 on the Default track, faster than even Renato Biker's RH record. Given Renato's legendary RH skills, I find that hard to believe.
• Victor Narl
  @MiDiaN, DGC rules stipulate that only a NoRH replay from the HIG file is allowed. I NEVER use the Nailwood/Mingva trick to rig the HIG file results, nor do I ever use the Luke site's HIG file editing tool. If you noticed, the car in DGC on Default.trk was a Lada Niva Comeback, which is classified as a cheat car. Driving cheat cars is not prohibited in DGC; in any case, my NoRH replay is attached there.
• MiDiaN
  Can you share the replay of Indy 0:29.45?
• Victor Narl
  @MiDiaN, this is my HIG file. If you need the replay itself, I'll send it later because I need to find it in my 1000+ replays. https://files.webmoney.com/files/7a4eagUQ
• Victor Narl
  @Marco, @MiDiaN, as @Duplode mentioned earlier, the use of NoRH is impossible to prove. So I don't understand why this discussion is directed at me. I think I've already convincingly proven more than once that I can play NoRH. Take, for example, my September online forum https://forum.stunts.hu/index.php?msg=98835 where I won a race live.
• MiDiaN
  No comments
• Victor Narl
  @MiDiaN, here's my replay in this archive especially for you https://files.webmoney.com/files/4ibDwrwN (contains the original NoRH replay file and the video file). Note: this run used a reinforced modification of the PMIN car available on the Luke website http://www.kalpen.de/luke/4dsports.html - this can also be considered a cheat car
• Victor Narl
  @AresUII, I don't use this service.It is susceptible to jamming and because of this it does not work well in my country.
• MiDiaN
  That is not a legit Porsche March Indy. You cheated.
• Victor Narl
  @MiDiaN, you didn't read the DGC rules carefully. As I wrote earlier: "Driving cheat cars is not prohibited in DGC!" https://www.dosgameclub.com/stunts-leaderboard/?page=rules My result was submitted 100% according to the rules and doesn't violate anything. This is a Porsche March Indy car using custom modification, its use is not prohibited in DGC
• Alain
  Hello my friend, when the desire to win becomes greater than the desire to understand, every rival's success begins to look like cheating. A Confucian would first seek harmony with facts before judging others. If the car is legal within the agreed rules, then the proper response is not accusation, but learning. The superior man examines his own driving before condemning another's. Perhaps the real question is not whether the PMIN file was legitimate, but whether we are prepared to accept a result that challenges our expectations. Have a great WE, the scoreboard awaits your first replay, BTW.
• MiDiaN
  Remove Victor Narl from Default track highscores wiki.
• Victor Narl
  @MiDiaN, by the way, I'll note that Renato Biker is also unknown what he drove (whether it was the original Porsche March Indy or something else), his replay for Default.trk was not saved.
• MiDiaN
  Renato is a respected member of the Zak community and a multiple-time championship winner with a strong reputation. That's why I believe his record is legit.
• Alain
  Hey, Fins had such great pilots in the past. Why not just put MiDiaN on the Default track highscores wiki with your own fingers, instead of asking to remove the best Russian pilot ever? True question demanding real answer.
• MiDiaN
  Why didn't you mention in the "Default" forum-thread that your time was achieved with a modified Indy?
• Alain
  It's ok, you are the chatroom winner. Your other chance to beat Hyperion Racing Team is on Z299, our track. Perhaps, also, if it happens everywhere else?
• Victor Narl
  @Midian, what does this forum thread have to do with the permanent DSG competitions? As for Renato Biker, I haven't encountered him personally, so just in case, I would ask him to send a replay for Defaukt.trk to clear up any questions.
• Victor Narl
  @Midian, I don't understand why you need Default.trk if your record isn't there? It would be much more useful for you to try to annul my "Wrongway" win by appealing to Duplode. I basically agree that "Wrongway" isn't part of the track and should be annulled, just like in March. I have no objections there.
• HerrNove
  Driving cheat cars is allowed. Driving cheat cars but modifying the name so that they appear official ones is, to put it mildly, questionable. In any case, at least in Stunts Wiki, an Indy is an Indy, not a cheat car with hacked name. Going to take the Ghost Car, call it Lamborghini 002 and crush some other record?
• Victor Narl
  @HerrNove, I didn't change anything, no names. For those who are particularly attentive, I’ll write again: this pumped-up modification of Indy is available for download on the website http://www.kalpen.de/luke/4dsports.html
• Victor Narl
  @HerrNove, there's nothing in the DGC rules that says you can't use mods for original cars = it's 100% within the rules
• MiDiaN
  My suggestion is: exclude results from DGC in the Stunts wiki.
• Alain
  Alas, what's the point. A Stoic would remind us that history is not ours to command. The results exist. They happened. Whether we approve of them or not lies outside our control. To remove them from the record would not change the past; it would only change our description of it. The purpose of a wiki is not to praise what we like or to hide what we dislike. It is to record what occurred as faithfully as possible. Once we begin excluding results because they are controversial, we replace history with preference, and preference is a poor archivist. If some believe DGC results deserve an asterisk, a note, or discussion, that is a matter for debate. But erasing them entirely would ask the archive to stop being an archive. As Epictetus might say: concern yourself with what is within your power—your own races, your own conduct, your own judgment. The past needs no protection from us; only honesty does.
• MiDiaN
  I'll stop here. This is both ridiculous and pointless.
• Victor Narl
  @MiDiaN, by the way, I never published this Indy (DGC) record, the Cas version doesn't have this record Stunts Wiki: Default . I don't understand why @Herrnove started editing the wiki yesterday
• AresUII
  @VictorNarl You have this jamming problem even on other instances?
• Victor Narl
  @AresUII, yes, any site using CloudFlare hosting has problems for me.
• Marco
  Hi my friends, please don't escalate the discussion that can be absolutely calm and fair. Victor easily admitted to have used mod cars so there's no need to push. Maybe there's only to check if the rules or wiki are fine with that. To be honest I don't know, I don't care too much on this. My GAR proof request is inside my GAR regulation that also suggest fastest drivers to always record themself to avoid any kind of argumentations. It was not only addressed to Victor but also to Ares or any new or quite new pilot that enter with very high performances in GAR mode. We have also to consider that, the fastest here, is the fastest in the world. Not properly the last stunts racer Obviously is a personal question because GAR is important to me and I'm not talking for the community or others. So Victor or Ares are absolutely free to refuse the gentleman request and I will decide if race or not. Freedom.
• Alain
  "Fastest in the world", I can refute this assumption. Many world level speedrunners could literally crush our results without a sweat. They just don't have financial interest in our little game. Victor came and he taught me two lessons: auto gear is not for beginners + money incentives don't always make the best results in the world. Despite its professional results on all races, Hyperion Racing Team is 100% amateur and the only fuel is passion.
• Marco
  a couple of seconds can be removed on GAR
• Marco
  Yes Alain, I'm quite sure that, in 8 billion people in the world there could be some faster than Verstappen ... it's only that they don't race in F1. )) I agree with you sure
• Marco
  so bad, I run 3:02.45 with 2 pixel out on the last jump part ...
• AresUII
  @VictorNarl tube.shanti.cafe should be CloudFlare free.
• AresUII
  on further surveying, peertube.dcldesign.co.uk might be better, there's a moderation hurdle for every upload tho
• Victor Narl
  @HerrNove, I claimed the FOWOOT record on the R4K website. Let's wait for the admins to check it, then I'll add it to the wiki: https://www.raceforkicks.com/index.php?page=track&track=default
• Victor Narl
  @AresUII, tube.shanti.cafe barely loads for me and works slowly, peertube.dcldesign.co.uk is completely blocked. Why should I record any videos? I play in native mode and nothing else, and it's impossible to record video in that mode
• AresUII
  ok but do you have old videos?
• Victor Narl
  @AresUII, I sometimes record videos of my finished replays, but I don't record myself on camera since it's impossible from the native game mode.
• Alain
  All I have to say to noobs is: join a team, fastest way to drive faster.
• Marco
  Check my youtube or fb channel, it s full of me playing on original hardware with a mobile camera behind my shoulders
• Marco
  https://www.facebook.com/share/v/18JSXTyrm7/ this is me for example in a 486
• Alan Rotoi
  @Marco, yes... that short corner over the hill is a GAR replay killer machine...
• Victor Narl
  @Marco, I don’t understand why “fencing gardens” with these cameras? in addition to my replay, I can simply send a screenshot of my HIG file, in my case this will be 100% enough. I have saved HIGs for all my GAR performances
• Marco
  Ok, now I'm sure that's possible to go under 3 minutes in GAR mode. Well, when I do a not perfect start, I start to push much more later because I'm no more scared to waste my laptime . And so it can happen that I do a faster lap than what I was thinking to do. Yes Alan, that corner is a good point to let "RH" starts blinking in your head after some trials . To be honest, I cannot do too many trials because of my nerve and so I reached 3 minutes quite fast . The problem with this Silverado is tha, sometime, it seems that you are over the track while you are not. Ah, if you need to see the live video let me know, I recorded fingers as well .
  1:57.39

Jun 7

• Marco
  Hi @Victor, Sorry, I continued with the "cameras" because I understood you said that was technically "impossible" to make videos on native. So I wrongly thought you was looking to know how to do . If you answered me that you didn't want to do that, I would not continued for sure. I red that you know many tricks that I never knew from modding cars to change highscore (midva, Luke, etc. that you mentioned). So I m sure that you can easily understand that, a replay or a highscore, means not too much in GAR racing because of the chance to use RH without been discovered. For this reason (but also because it's always great to see a new nice racer to play) , in GAR rules there s written that you can ask to show skills. Obviously, anyone can refuse to do that . I thought it could be very interesting to see you because it doesn't happen every day that a new racer appears crashing 20 years of NO-RH records of this community at the age of 50 and with automatic clutch. He is not a good racer , he is the king . I see that you are doing very well in RH, it s much different from GAR but, to be at the top of that scoreboard, I perfectly know that is very very very hard, so much congrats. I won the championship in 2019 but I was very lucky and, some stronger competitors, were distracted that year, that's the truth.
• Victor Narl
  @Marco, remember ***: I NEVER modify any cars myself, and I NEVER change HIG!!! I initially came to Dosreloaded only because of its NoRH formula, I didn't even plan to participate in any RH competitions, since I consider any RH to be cheating (it is precisely because of the use of RH that this game is still not on the website www.Speedrun.com). With your last disgusting troll message, you *** publicly insulted a Russian nobleman and in connection with this, I am leaving the GAR league FOREVER!!! I appeal to @Duplode and @dreadnaut to ban you for trolling right now!
• Marco
  I ask sorry to all If I let me be so much misunderstood. This was completely and totally far from my intentions. My english probably is too bad. Sorry Victor , I hope you can completely accept my apologies, my congratulations were absolutely real. This morning I red your message and i was not able to understand why you was so angry and the only reason can be that I'm not able to let me understand in the right way. So completely my fault, please accept my apologies.
• Alain
  I support Victor's appeal.
• dreadnaut
  Definitely a lot lost in translation here, on all sides. I read no insults or offence, and no-one is getting banned. Written communication is difficult, be the adults you can be when you are offline 👍
• Duplode
  Back to GAR rule 3.55.2: I have amended the text to specifically address the Silverado situation. Now, deciding what to do with @AresUII's 3:07.90 replay after the amendment is tricky (and I hope you can appreciate that!). On the one hand, applying the updated rule only to new replays would make things inconsistent within the race; on the other hand, applying it retroactively would penalize AresUII for something in which the way the rule was written was partly at fault. The sensible thing to do in such situations is usually to wait for the next race before applying the updated rule; here, however, that risks making the entire discussion moot, as we don't know if there will be another Silverado race this season. All things considered, I'll remove the GAR flag from the 3:07.90 as the least-worst option in this specific situation. Sorry for that, AresUII -- I was going to add that I had no doubts you'd manage to improve on that GAR time, but it turns out you've already have done that anyway

Jun 8

• Victor Narl
  @Marco, let's be adults and face the truth. Your apology is accepted, I'm not offended, but just in case, I'll refrain from participating in GAR races to avoid any potential conflicts. but I'm still surprised that with your experience you can't visually distinguish a NoRH replay from a RH replay. As @Overdrijf once said, RH replays usually have "too smooth turns and more moments close to going off-track" (https://dosreloaded.de/forum/thread/7264-4d-sports-driving-stunts-jahrescontest-2024/?postID=259118#post259118) Also, there is a wonderful program called Replay Analyzer (RA) by Robert Riebisch http://www.kalpen.de/luke/4dreplays.html It can be used to determine the presence of RH for each pipsqueak based on the statistics of the keys pressed. It can also be further developed so that even with single recoveries after accidents it would be possible to determine the presence of RH
• MiDiaN
  There will never be a software that determines whether a replay is RH or not. Only proof is video of keyboard, why is it so hard to understand
• Victor Narl
  @MiDiaN, that's exactly why I no longer participate in the GAR league. Privacy is more important to me than interest in the competition. I would also suggest that @Marco ask @Duplode to make an official rule requiring mandatory video verification for the GAR league so that all riders are on a level playing field. P.S. I see that the times of "witch hunts" have come again.
• Victor Narl
  @MiDiaN, @Marco, another alternative is to replace video verification with mandatory use of the Stunts-NoRH version of the GAR rules, which can be downloaded here: https://ntt.mystunts.net/Stunts-NoRH.zip
• Victor Narl
  @Marco, in the following AresUII replay at 08.65 mark, a jump with an air advantage was obtained at the start of Corkscrew. I ask that this replay be verified for compliance with the GAR rule for Corkscrew. https://zak.stunts.hu/replays/256eb4baf4f29de0b2913b82f7c2ea447f78a223
• Marco
  Thanks Dread for understanding and thanks Victor for accepting my apologies . Probably, because we are both from the same country, it's easier for Dread to understand my way to speak or to translate from italian. For all the others, I still ask sorry. About me, I'm not so experienced as you can think Victor in the sense that I don't know very much about extra tools, etc. known by the community. I was never interested in them because I simply like to play the game as it is. For example, I still build circuits with the inside editor, I don't use the "special" one . The only thing I like to do, that's not default of the game, is to use the addon cars done by Zapper, Ryoma , Alan etc that I love . I trust the community knowledge so, because the community teached me that there was no way to discover RH in NO-RH races, I inserted that particular "proof ability request" in GAR. I know it can sound extreme and for that reason is not mandatory. It was asked, in my memory, only 2 times in more than 10 years for very very fast racers. But I never imagined to ask anyone to quit GAR because of that, I would not. Privacy can be surely more important and also to do not let people angry is still more important.
• Marco
  Sorry Ares ... regarding Gar rules, that entrance is clearly invalid )) . Anyway, Corkscrew, is an element that was hard to define in my GAR mind. My initial intention was to pretend that the first front right external pixel of the car clearly entered from the perpendicular middle line of the corkscrew track in entrance and the first front left external pixel of the car exited from the perpendicular line in exiting. Don't know if I'm clear enough, sorry. but it seemed to me too strictly at that time so that I push much more on the fact to avoid jump or speed up. Maybe It was not too bad my first intention. Usually I try to pay attention myself to respect "my mind rule" and stay on the perpendicular. In this case, I would declare my fastest lap invalid on both entrance and exiting with my mind rule for very few pixels . Uhmmmm ...
• Marco
  No, I'm wrong , regarding the very first front pixel of the car, both left and right, It seems I was good also with my "mind" in the fast replay. They are the tires of this trucks that are so big . Anyway my friends, if there something that you think must be rivisited or changed could be fine to me. We can discuss and decide
• Marco
  I tried a run paying much more attention to my initial corkscrew mind rule and I reminded why I thought it was too strictly and no sense . Because to pay attention to that, especially exiting, you have to almost go out of the track . Nothing, let's continue in this way paying attention to do not speed up that, anyway, means to stay close to my mind rule. Only real jumps and banked roads remain free to jump and speed up.
• dreadnaut
  Feel free to discuss this on the forum, where there might be more space and calm for reasoning
• Marco
  Yes sorry Dread, I'm becoming old . It's Not very comfortable to me to use the Forum but surely I can understand that this is not the best place to write poems . I try to check the forum yes
• Victor Narl
  @Marco, thanks for checking the replay for AresUII. @Duplode, unfortunately, AresUII violated the GAR rules again when entering Corkscrew, so please remember to remove the GAR flag for AresUII's replay (2:00:67)
• AresUII
  [Disregard previous content]
• AresUII
  Where's the fucking track rating modal
• Marco
  @Ares What ? @Victor . About Stunts_NORH , I didn't remember too much it but there's something in my very old memory ... If I'm not wrong , in that version, only the "continue race" button was removed but there's nothing more that certified that the replay was saved with that version.
• Victor Narl
  @Marco, yes, that's right, the RH button was removed, but replay incompatibility was also introduced between the NoRH and regular BB1.1 versions to prevent replays from being saved using the regular version. For example, you won't be able to view my replay ( https://files.webmoney.com/files/aqtU0z6V ) with the regular version of the game because it was recorded in the NoRH version.
• Alan Rotoi
  Yes, the best way for NoRH lovers 😉. @Daniel3D organized a couple of races with this Stunts version back in 2023 or 2024.
• Alan Rotoi
  This was the competition: NTT - No time travel: https://ntt.mystunts.net/

Jun 9

• Marco
  Don't know if it s good that we continue to speak here about GAR but it is much easier to me . I try at least to be short. Yes Alan, main problem remains that you cannot be sure that someone is using that version. Replay incompatibility sounds good but can, other RH version of the game, have the same replay incompatibility with Stunts 1.1 ? In that case you again cannot be sure that the no-rh was used. Is the NO-RH replay compatible with ZAK STUNTS site ?
• dreadnaut
  'Incompatible' replays uploaded to ZakStunts are just poor replays, from the point of view of the website. The GAR tag only exists because there is no active GAR competition, so folks can at least discuss and compare GAR replays. If anyone organised an actual championship, they could use the best Stunts version for the job 👍

Jun 10

• Alan Rotoi
  Haooy birthday @Duplode!!
• Alain
  Happy birthday Duplode
• Ryoma
  Happy Birthday @Duplode ! Where is the 850?
• Victor Narl
  Happy birthday, Duplode!
• HerrNove
  Parabéns, @Duplode!
• Frieshansen
  Happy Birthday @Duplode!
• Alan Rotoi
  Btw "haooy" means "happy" in half slept typing 😁
• Marco
  !!! HappyB Dup
• dreadnaut
  Happy birthday, @Duplode and @KaoS! 🎂
• Victor Narl
  @Marco, your concerns are not unfounded; there really are plenty of reverse engineering experts here who could write a mod for the Stunts_NoRH version with the RH/Cont button added. The conclusions are disappointing: NoRH competitions are becoming less and less fun due to constant mutual suspicions and are in a state of decline, trust in the players has been undermined (with the exception of Dosreloaded). I was absolutely right to leave the GAR league.
• Alan Rotoi
  DOSreloaded succeeds in trust but fails in truth. They are happy like this, so let them be.
• Alain
  Happy birthday Duplode

Jun 11

• Erik Barros
  Feliz aniversário @Duplode!!!!!
• Duplode
  Thanks everyone! @Ryoma You're right, I really should finish the 850 one of these days -- and, for that matter, begin dealing with my backlog of unfinished and/or unpublished projects 😅
• Duplode
  A few more words on GAR... On the 3:05.65 replay, I won't remove its GAR tag, for a few reasons: (1) One of the front wheels of the car is clearly on the midline of the cork, and so the situation with respect to the "one pixel" rule is far less ambiguous than in the previous case involving the cork exit; (2) Gains with airtime on the cork entry are kind of self-limiting given the need to steer hard to the right in order to complete the spiral, and so that's arguably less of a problem than airtime on the cork exit; (3) Even if we were to disregard the two previous points, I wouldn't be willing to amend that rule a second time in the same race.
• Duplode
  Also, as implied by @dreadnaut on Monday, the GAR scoreboard on ZakStunts is not going to adopt video or the NoRH mod, because GAR on ZakStunts is an unofficial scoreboard for people to enjoy NoRH without shortcuts which is meant to have the same requirements of software and equipment as the main scoreboard, with no technical barriers to complicate access. I sympathise with @VictorNarl's concerns about video-as-evidence in this context. As I wrote here some years ago, if video were asked of me here I, too, would have declined.
• Duplode
  @AresUII You can find the vote buttons on the ZCT298 scoreboard page. It's possible to vote on the previous track until the third week of the current race.
• AresUII
  @Duplode okay, what about ZCT299?
• Victor Narl
  @Marco, unfortunately, AresUII's GAR replay, which clearly violated the Corkscrew entry rules, will not be removed from the GAR league. What kind of compliance can we talk about if the violations are considered legitimate? GAR competitions are in deep crisis and have become uninteresting to play.
• Victor Narl
  @Duplode, thanks for the comment about video verification. @Marco, it's really strange to require video verification from some and not from others. If we are going to demand video verification, then it should be from everyone or from no one, no racer should be in a privileged position. Since the GAR basic rules will not introduce a requirement for video verification, any requirement for such verification is illegal.
• HerrNove
  @AresUII You can only vote on a track after its 28-day race period is complete.
• MiDiaN
  Welcome back Argammon. Got some free time?
• Alain
  Welcome back,... MiDiaN? Hey Argammon, my old friend. Let's play together again!
• Argammon
  Thanks for the warm welcome pipsqueaks!
  1:37.24
• Marco
  Argammon was another great myth when I joined 10 years ago. Nice to meet you. Oh wow, so many things to answer ) I admit that I always like to have a serious conversation about our old favorite games. It helps keep them relevant and alive . Surely it must remain quite friendly because there's no need to argue.
• Marco
  Thanks Dup for your investigation and opinion. In my GAR mind there was not the rule "if you have not advantage, so it's good". But I remember that, a trip on the grass , was kindly accepted for racers that wanted to play GAR but had difficulty to stay on the road for the entire circuit. About corkscrew, the major rule in my mind was to avoid jumps and speed up while the pixel rule was secondary to help achieving that. Anyway, if ZAK GAR decides that is better to set the pixel rule as the only one rule to follow due to new cars or for any reason, it can sounds fine to me too. Rules changes in F1, why not here ? I will try how it works and, maybe, I could change my mind for MARCO GAR or maybe not but it s not a problem to respect the ZAK GAR version here. (sorry Dreadddd )
• Marco
  About ability proof . A friend of this community told me that the GAR was going on again and that there were very interesting new fast NO-RH pilots (Victor, Ares, etc.). So I come to check and I was very well impressed by all of your results and , first of all, by your so close attention on GAR and NO-RH rules. Checking every replay so seriously sounded very nice to me. So I thought that it was good to talk together about the main problem that can exist in the Stunts NO-RH world. The RH .
• Alan Rotoi
  @Marco how would define your driving style? I mean regarding this video where you can see three different ways to race the same track.
• Marco
  I'm just amazed by this video. Alan, I don't even know how I managed to win a RH championship here. I always copied from the best and tried to improve when I could. My style was copying, so far from the top racers ))
• HerrNove
  Very nice “shooting star” effect in the All Results board. Hope that the PTB calculations are not done manually And welcome back, @Argammon!
• AresUII
  Would probably put myself somewhere in between Gutix and Rotoi, based mostly on my lack of comfort with trajectory "snapping" during drifts.
• Alan Rotoi
  @AresUII your lack of comfort with trajectory would be useful finding shortcuts! I opened a discussion in the forum about it: Driving Styles

Jun 12

• Ryoma
  
• Marco
  I never used automatic clutch since the beginning. I also thought it was strongly penalized compared to manual but I had no practice elements to say that, it was simply a thinking. I did some trials this morning with Silverado . About accelleration, it seems to me that's like Skid Vicious, not the best but very close. So, manually, you have not so many chances to be everytime faster. Main disadvantage to me is that it's too slow in decreasing gear that can help to fast breaking . I create a couple of easy 1 minute circuits to test a little bit. Simply and normal corners. I placed a long first straight so to give to automatic a little accelleration advantage. I run 1 second faster with manual on both compared to my best automatic and i think is due to drecrease gearing on breaking . Victor, Ares, would you test them with automatic ?
• Marco
  Nice one Ryo-Mazinger
• Ryoma
  Thanks Marco. My Yamaha ox99-11 seems more beautiful than the original lol
• Alan Rotoi
  New interview: Shoegazing Leo!! read: https://zak.stunts.hu/articles/shoegazing-leo-a-pillar-of-the-community
• Marco
  He is my team Manager. So bad , I could not continue to contribute in RH because of my ulnar nerve. Sorry Leo

Jun 13

• dreadnaut
  Thank you @AlanRotoi and @Leo! I love reading about folks' history, dreams and motivation 🙏
• Victor Narl
  @Marco, yes, I can test your track. A mechanical gearbox is usually always faster than an automatic one and you can do more complex tricks with it, but it's almost useless on completely flat tracks with only apexes and no relief.
• Victor Narl
  @Argammon, welcome back!

Jun 14

• Marco
  @Victor, how can I share you the circuits ?
• Alan Rotoi
  About the gears in Stunts it depends mostly in the car. There is less differences between manual and automatic in most of the custom cars I built. This idea came in the later cars like Williams which is more equaled in this detail than it's cousin McLaren Honda. The other aspect is the track, of course.
• Victor Narl
  @Marco, you can send me these tracks via private message on Dosreloaded or on this forum
• AresUII
  Hello from Sweden (not really)!
• Alain
  Marco, do you even know Pershing II?
• Marco
  Hi @Victor, I was not able to send them here, I sent them on DosReload that there was the chance to attach the tracks. Hi @Alain, no I don't know. What's that ?
• Victor Narl
  @Marco, ok, I'll watch it tomorrow.
• Marco
  Thanks, take your time. Honestly , I thought there was a higher GAP between auto and manual compared to what I did on these short circuits.

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